substances is consistent with the board's decision and we believe the court will find it consistent with the the law. one of the cases we'll make in the appeals process, people are dying every day, this is not a joke, this is about real lives. >> and personal political capital and-- >> i didn't spend political capital i'm trying to do what's right. i've got to defend my children and you and everybody else and do what's right to save lives. obesity kills. there's just no question about it. >> sean: and joining me now with reaction from americans for prosperity, the one and only jennifer stefano and the national action against obesity, meme roth, don't tell me you want this. first of all, i don't need the government telling me what i can and cannot eat or put in my body. leave me alone. >> i actually agree with you of the i hate that it came to this, but it's -- the reality.