reduced trajectory of spending in our country. when you stand up and make the case i listened, bill, i must tell you something, i don't think it helps you when you yell liar when you call people bs agents and all of that. i think it diminishes the substance of what you have to say and do you have substance. you have an argument. >> bill: i said the use of the word liar was not a good -- that i shouldn't have done that but, colmes wasn't telling the truth simple as that. he wasn't. it was a very targeted discussion. that is president obama specifically going to cut. as the "wall street journal" go back to this because it was interesting that they did their editorial two days after that shootout. not one program, juan. that's the truth. and if you are not going to acknowledge it or alan is not going to acknowledge it, then you are misleading the public. you know, i don't buy that. i will come back. go to mary katharineham. righteous anger, mary