folks and they look at me like, i have never hards of it. >> shannon: you mentioned bipartisanship and clarity. we hope you will hash this out. >> eric: >> reporter: by turning medicaid to a bloc grant that you can cut $770 billion out of that program in 10 years and have no impact on legitimate recipients? >> these are increases that have not come yet. so by repealing kare-11 and the medicaid expansions which haven't occurred yet, we are preventing an sploangz of a program that is already failing. >> shannon: that was former republican vice-presidential candidate and chair of the budget committee on the house side, paul ryan. he is rolling out his budget plan on tuesday to balance the budget within 10 years, but would require the repeal of kare-11. i sat down with chris wallace to talk about his exclusive interview.