got to move this conversation. we've got to move this information. we don't have time right now. toby, doctor shortages, that what we're talking about, is obamacare causing them. >> we've had doctor shortages for the last five years and again, use massachusetts. massachusetts has the second most physicians per population in the united states. now, if anybody was not going to have shortages, they would be it, right? well, they went from a 21 day waiting period for a doctor, pre-massachusetts care to somewhere in 42 to 45 days for a primary care physician. that was just massive because they put more people in the system than physicians. the second issue is that medicaid and medicare are not forced on doctors, they don't have to take it and they lost 20% of their doctors. >> brenda: sorry to cut you off. jonas. >> and i'm pretty sure there's not a shortage of plastic surgeons in florida. the reason is there's no