cut a couple hundred million dollars out of the ag department budget. start with that 2.2 billion-dollar program that is riddled with fraud and abuse. that's why i want the republicans to give them flexibility and then call the agriculture secretary up to capitol hill and say why are you cutting. >> bill: embarrass him. >> shame the politicians into doing the right thing. >> bill: shame is a good weapon. i mean in the agricultural committee vilsack is spending million dollars of dollars on sensitivity sessions that we showed last week. that say hey, you can't stop any illegal aliens coming in from mexico because they should be running arizona texas and new mexico. that's what we're paying for now. >> take the secretary of the interior salazar. i'm not going to call monument close campground.