skwrufrpb -- jump-start the economy, help with jobs and maybe help the price of gas to stabilize. >>gretchen: the likely of president obama doing? zero; right? what they have been talking about more is the strategic reserve, they might go into that. that's usually only for emergency purposes. >> it should only be used for emergencies. real trouble in the middle east and supplies from there are cut off, you need our emergency supply. the obama administration frequently suggests maybe because gas prices are so high, maybe we'll release some oil into the economy. but it's not worked in the sense that gas prices keep on going up. you yourself have established that expression, the new normal. and you're right. we go from one peak, dip that down a bit. there's the new normal. then we can up to another pa*ebg, we come back -- another peak, we come back to a new normal. >>gretchen: they said gas has gone up 20 cents per gallon in the last couple