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on-line. at this it two weeks ago and i'm glad i did. also you say generate strong passwords. i know a lot of people, their password is password, or password 1. but off suggestion on using a phrase. >> yeah. we're just talking before the break, or during the break. we both come from kansas. it could be, hey, congratulations to the kansas state wildcats. or i love ksu. create some things that only you would know, create some things that you like, or take the first letter out of a long sentence of something you know very well, like the musical refrain in one of your favorite led zeppelin songs. you can do stuff that you can remember. but just don't make it simple. like password 1 or your fetas name. those are so yesterday. >> steve: all right. make sure your antivirus program is up to date because the antivirus companies do a lot of monitoring of the hackers and as soon as they know of a problem, they try to put a patch on the line, don't they? >> right. you're not going to get 100% of the stuff, but if you're not updating, you're going to miss 90% of the stuff. at least keep up to date against

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