waiting to process the crime scene. but that a lot of people, especially a lot of cops, 40 of them named in this vendetta, in this manifesto that he put out there. 40 of them named and their families clearly very relieved by the scene that you are seeing play out live in big bear at 447 in the afternoon here on the west coast, shep. >> shepard: trace, what more do we know if anything about the couple whom he has been holding or had been holding hostage, i guess, until this morning? >> you know, that's the thing is we know very little about them. the initial report was that he went in and he pulled off a home invasion this morning and he tied this couple up. and then he stole their truck. and that was their truck that he was pulled over with or at least was confronted by fish and game. well, as you get into the story you find out that he apparently had been inside this cabin near the golf course, near the command post for at least one day, maybe