checked off. this is the man over the past 7 or 8 days that has evaded police at least five times by our count and they are making sure it doesn't happen again, shep. >> gigi, out on the road, have the cops given you an idea after these couple of hours why it is they haven't opened up traffic or not? >> well, they apparently feel very confident that whoever that suspect is that was shooting at them is indeed hold up off of highway 38, as you heard right now has not reopened to traffic. the traffic down hill from big bear and, remember, big bear is a ski resort. lots of skiers up there right now. the way to come down the hill is about three hours. they just decided it wasn't feasible they feel confident they have their suspect off of highway 38. that's why they are opening the road and allowing people to come down off the hill and allowing people in a short while to go back up the mountain. >> shepard: that makes sense.