nation. >> you make an argument it's the lowest in the nation based upon the test scores. i would say that ours can get better but i would say -- >> your predecessors the unions have been saying that for years. >> i think the unions have a strong history of advocating for high quality education. >> but not achieving it. >> our test scores are something can he choose not to focus on. >> i know my kids are learning when i look in their eye. >> the protestors had celebrity support. matt damon. he was asked about the rules that make it hard to fire a union teacher. >> in acting there isn't job security, right? why isn't it like that for teachers? >> you think job insect is what makes me work hard? >> you have an incentive to work harder. >> it's not an incentive.