deficit. does that sound like a jobs plan to you? >> well, it certainly -- i certainly think the american jobs act that i keep saying, it sounds like a talk point, but in that we should pass. and that is up to the house republicans to get that through. but i think that part of the problem for the president is that he has been beating the same drum repeatedly over and over and over again and he keeps coming up against republican opposition in the house. brad said that we have a spending problem. i agree that there are things that we need to look at to make sure that our deficit is under control. that's more of a long-term problem. in the short-term, we need to spend more to get the economy back on track. >> no, quite the contrary. rick, we spend too much money. our economy is not growing because people are fearful. one of your great here rose, bill clinton, said there is about $2 trillion that people are sitting on. why?