jon: why put her on the stand, lis? >> well, they almost have to. they've got to try to keep one juror to keep the death penalty off the table. that's what her lawyers are trying to do, to try to humanize her a little bit. i think it's a real stretch, jon. i think this is one of the weakest self-defense cases i have ever heard about. when have you last heard about a self-defense case where somebody slits the other person's throat 27 times and, by the way, then shoots them in the forehead? i don't think the jury's going to buy it, but they really had no other choice but to put her on. jon: doug? >> you never know how this is hurting the jury. they are undemonnizing her, my term, and theoretically the jury has to reach a unanimous verdict, so you just don't know. having said that, when you look at the case object ily, it would seem to me it's more of a heat of passion type of defense instead of self-defense. for example, you come in, your spouse is in bed with somebody else, you stab them 27 times.