and these are not law-abiding citizens coming forth, as you know. a lot of money changes hands in these things, and you can bribe criminals to say anything. >> secret service gambled with women too who were supposedly untrustworthy and turns out they were telling the truth. >> bill: but here's the bigger picture. there are certain countries in the world that specialize in this kind of thing. island of hispaniola, which comprises the dominican republic and haiti and type land is another and hong kong where the children are trafficked. and the dnr goes there for that specific reason. >> that's the reason >> bill: number two, the situation has to be-- i'll say once again. i don't know menendez, and i've never met him. but i'm going to believe himself