>> bill: factor follow up segment tonight. terrible situation in iran. 32-year-old be a dean any american father of two, christian pastor. convicted of insurrection and sentenced to 8 years in a iranian president. why condemn iran's freedom of religion and we call on the iranian authorities to release mr. abedini. close contact with the family actively engaged in this case. >> bill: that's nice i don't think iran is quaking in proverbial boots. with us now is a member of the group human rights watch iranian expert. they don't care what cash carney says, do they? >> i think international pressure does wind up helping in several cases. we have a case of a christian pastor niewmed yousef who was