it's an isolated incident. how many times do we see these situations, in fact any situation of violent, whether it's domestic or otherwise where people go backwards and go well, yeah, he was kind of angry, yes he was violent, yeah i had a fight with him, and you see these people that have never talked to each other now collectively talking about one person or incident, and the evidence is there, the clues are there. bill: court record, ap now shows he had been scheduled to appear in court wednesday morning, today, charging menacing neighbors as they drove by his house a month ago. he's said to be in his 60s. neighbors said he yelled and fired shots over damage he claimed their pickup did to a makeshift speed bump in the dirt road. i'm reading this off the "associated press." there are mental issues involved in this too. mark fuhrman thank you. we hope this ends peacefully. martha: we have the on going hostage situation, a man with a gun holding a six-year-old