sununu choice of words. i'm saying you know him i know him. is he not a racist. why even bring it -- just say he was foolish to put it that way. >> let me tell you why. i would never call john a racist. and he used some very poorly chosen words in my judgment. and i think he might agree with it in retrospect. >> bill: sure. you have to understand the impact this has on minorities through the our country and if you want to appeal to these people, if you want to bring them to the republican party and give them the reason to vote republican, you have to avoid this kind of language which can infuriate people and cause them to go vote. >> bill: i agree there has to be auto a thought put out to reach out to those precincts i didn't think, with all due respect, general, and you know i respect you, that making a racial issue out of a sununu was part sin was the right thing to do. same with governor palin. she is performing for her crew. she is not a racist.