soft, kind of dating game kind of thing rather than. >> look, they didn't need to be a mike wallace doing that the late mike wallace. >> i couldn't imagine chris wallace doing it. this was a very interesting moment. he didn't make the most of it. steve kroft didn't. president obama and secretary clinton made the most of it, which was to sort of congratulate each other and look happy. that's all they needed to do and that's all they had to do. >> i want you to watch the interview that i do with party.powell because it's all it's about you, your guys. that's tomorrow. and then we will have you back and you can discuss that interview. okay? >> you bet. >> bill: all right, mr. rove. on deck mr. carolla and chubby americans. some feel we should scorn them. carolla moments away.