woman said. the thing is, we have a lot of parents who couldn't get a flip. we can't get them on the phone, they don't show up to any parent-teacher meetings. we have to find some way to motivate those parents to say, wait a second, maybe it's important if i talk to the teacher once a year at least tow see how my son or daughter is doing. jaime: dr. roberts should this be a model then for other states to consider? >> i think he needs to dig a little deeper. if he's targeting the parents that don't give a flip, let that be the target population, and let's go in there and if we have to go to their homes and get these parents. this is what we had to do in chicago. we want to make shog wor something work we go to the home, we find the parents. nothing stops us from our objective of getting them even tkpwaeupld. engaged. let's talk to targeted parents that don't give a flip. let's ask them what is it going to take for them to give a flip. at the end when it all fails let's talk about taking that 20%. that is a lot of cash money coming out of a parents' hand