of state. >> he might have conflicts of interest? >> exactly. if he has to talk to japan, he can't have sony. that kind of stuff? >> well, this is actually a reaction to an old view. that if you own an american company, then you won't have a conflict internationally. nearly every american company, major value company, has foreign interests. therefore,. >> bill: so you don't think kerry should sell his stocks? >> i personally think he should have it in a blind trust and be done with it he has got so much money and his wife has got so much more money. >> bill: theresa hines. >> theresa. and they are interrelated. >> bill: if he is secretary of state. this means that kerry can't eat hamburgers and put ketchup on it. >> especially that heinz. >> bill: that's it. no more catch enfor ketchup for you. remember romney said that i have a blind trust and then he got accused of buying switzerland and the caymans. >> that's what great about this. you go through this list of companies. he has got interest.