just the provision we have. some people, nancy pelosi said on sunday the president should totally ignore the debt ceiling saying by invoking the 14 amendment. she is not the first person in washington to say that by i think the more important thing, jenna, let's say we do hit the debt ceiling and exhaust this emergency provision. it is some tough choices have to be made. among them could be people watching this show expecting a refund check, you may not get it when you think. the irs could wait 45 days, after april 15th and then there are a whole lot of other things they have to make tough decisions on. veterans benefits, food stamps. there is a whole lot of money due. and something can not be paid if we can't borrow anymore. jenna: interesting. they have to delay some of those payments just to have the right balance sheet. all right, charles, it is something we'll continue to watch. >> keep your fingers crossed, jenna. jenna: i will, all of them. >> see you later. jon: and keep your credit cards paid. a new report says an al kind-linked terrorist is among eight people killed by