with it talk about $600 billion over 10 years we got out of the tax hikes that he got. social security just announced this week or the "new york times" had a story about how they had 800 billion-dollar short fall they didn't know about. that money gone. kiss it goodbye. already gone. this is not a revenue issue. >> bill: you heard ravel the former cnn correspondent basically dodge all my questions which always amuses me. dose think that people don't know he is dodging? this interview is being conducted in his garage in everybody sees it, you know. but all right he didn't want to answer but he was theoretical on the side of the journal news which has now put people in jeopardy you say, juan, i would have published it. >> you would have put people in jeopardy? >> i wouldn't have sought the the -- this is public information. >> bill: it doesn't matter. look, connecticut has a law that says you can't do it, juan. and you had to seek this information. >> the reporter who was behind this story had a great quote in the papers today.