or chicago. >> bob: you said obamacare and that is fair to add in to this. although not nationalized medicine. social security, medicare and medicaid been around a long time. this is not something brand new. not moving in this direction all of a sudden. >> eric: here is what happened this year. >> andrea: we are moving quicker than in the past. >> eric: here is what happened this year. heritage put out a study. for the first time in history the amount of money if you are on welfare, welfare recipient, number that you get, 40 something thousand on average per year exceeds the amount if you're a worker in the u.s. economy on average makes. to the give-away and hand-out get bigger and the risk is you can't -- >> bob: we're signing right wing -- economist is not known at anything progressive. >> greg: they are not right wing. economists? >> dana: are you kidding me? i get that magazine. it's so, it's so chocked full of stuff every week.