the door we will be going through. >> so this is the traditional birth place of jesus? >> this is the traditional birth place. there is very little doubt about the city and for us the probability about 85 percent that the church is actually built over the right place. we have two different versions one in luke where mary and joseph start from nazareth and matthew where mary and joseph are native of bethlehem. that's why jesus is born here. i say most scholars matthew's account is preferable. >> didn't luke give the more detailed account. >> more detailed more vivid more dramatic but the benefit accounts for the census which forces a man and his very pregnant wife to move through the country. i don't accept that census because this was not part of the roman empire and the census was