forcing them to provide insurance can contraception and if they don't get exceptions, they will have to pony up big fines. welcome to forbes on fox and we'll go with steve forbes and rick unger and elizabeth mcdonald and victoria and steve and rich. >> what do you think? >> jobs are going to be destroid even if they don't go overseas. health care costs are going up. obama care is increasing alert . insurers have to take all comers and that will put a strain on it and mandates, consumers may not want them and politicians say you must have them and insurance costs are going up and we the people will be losers. and the hobby lobby face a fine 1. 5 million if they don't do what the government said they have to do via the