membership and dues since the 1960s-- wait a minute, juan -- >> with that, we have seen a real expansion of income inequality in this could you wantry and the decline of the american middle class? unions have put millions into supporting this president, democratic causes -- >> absolutely. >> sean: where's president civility that was so willing to talk about the disgusting youtube video that had ink to do -- had nothing to do with benghazi. >> you are ignoring i said 7 out of 10 top political contributors are on the conservative side, big business. people like the koch brothers and others, that's what is driving all of the conservatives. >> this is the real problem with the debate. if you want to have an honest and fair debate, juan, over right-to-work legislation, we have that -- >> let's do it. >> my grandfather was a union electrician. this is not about unions going out of business, this is about unions have been to compete for the individual employee that they make that choice, whether