in the upper portion where they initially retreated to the back of the store and then they came out thinking we are probably safer if the gate is shut. were other stores doing that as well from what you could tell? >> a lot of other -- yeah, other stores shut their gates so we thought it would be okay there were stores that left their gates open. jewelry stores that left their gates open. left the jewelry in the cases and just ran out. and, you know, we got escorted out by the u.s. marshalls i think. i don't know who they were. swat team maybe. but they weren't even sure where the shooter was. they had to secure our store. the only reason we got out was because we had witness in there. >> and when they came to you and said it was your time to leave did, you get the impression that it was still an active search that there was still a threat in the mall and you needed an escort? >> absolutely. there was -- they did not know where he was. they were -- it was a huge threat, yes. they were crawling. i actually have a couple videos on my phone crawling around with rifles. he had this to check every