a position of promoting atheism. >> bill: winter solstice is not a religion. it's a holiday. if he wants to put winter soltis up on door i have no problem with it. >> you are right it could be secular. if you put up there. >> bill: jesus christ he was a man. christmas tree is a secular symbol. nothing to do with christianity. >> what's that first word? >> bill: secular symbol. >> christmas. christmas is a christmas tree. >> bill: this is so unreasonable. you are so unreasonable. >> no it's not unreasonable. >> bill: it's frightening. >> i'm not unreasonable at all. i'm saying the government has to be fair. the government has to not take sides. everybody is equal. >> bill: it's a federal holiday. why don't you get off your butt and get it revoked. >> don't have the votes. >> bill: of course you don't because your view is insane. >> no, it's not. you can celebrate christmas without being a christian.