you are atheist, nonbeliever, i respect that that's fine. i don't look down on you. i don't think you are a pinhead. >> thank you. >> bill: if you want to be an atheist that's why we have america. be it. why are you messing around with my tradition? why are you messing around with christmas? just leave it alone. is there a compelling reason for you to mess around with it. >> we are only messing around -- we are not messing around with anything. we're stopping the government from preferring one religion over another. >> bill: stop there. >> no. >> no. >> bill: no, no, no, no. you listen to me and answer my questions. >> i try to enat questions, go ahead. >> bill: what religion is involved with christmas? what religion? >> christianity. >> bill: that's not a religion. that's a philosophy. >> okay. so, since the dawn of time the winter solstice has been celebrated by multiple religions. >> bill: winter solstice. >> shortest dave the year. evergreen trees because they don't die, giving gifts, family songs. >> bill: you like the winter soltis. >> i do.