essentially what they're doing is asking for everyone in the country to be turned into suspects before they have any evidence that they've committed a crime. in my book, that's a bit of a government overreach and opening the door right for more tierney into people's personal and private lives. >> your position on this. >> thanks forking havin for hav, sean. i agree with katie. not a matter of just personal privacy and civil liberties, also a matter of business independence and allowing businesses to operate without intrusion from the government and being told what they need to do in order to take these preventives steps. so it seems like a lot of overreach both in private lives. i know a lot of people in law enforcement. they're doing just fine with the tools at their current disposal. >> we want to help them as much as possible. it has to be reasonable search and seizure. i think the way we achieve that is if they have a suspect, we have a system of checks and balances. we have a judiciary.