he was discreet. could we have learned from him? >> i am in favor of nineties nostalgia. how many e-mails did we get from mitt romney and barack obama and joe biden if he knew what a computer is. i am happy when a president is not bombarding me with fundraising e-mails. i don't believe in story that involves bill clinton saying the word hoodie. >> bill, you told me you don't use e-mail at all. how are the computer classes coming? >> no, i use snail mail, but it is like e-mail because they deliver it to my customers. i put e in an envelope and send it to them. that's what they do. they take it and go -- >> i don't even know what that means. i don't know what this e is. >> mooy either. >> time to take a break, but more stuff is on the way.