not using this tax revenue to pay down debt. this is a wide disagreement. >> greta: in the first one 800 revenues 80 billion dollars a year, we could go to the study and find 80 billion dollars each year of waste that no one in his right mind wants to pay for that would easily meet that revenue demand. no one looks for waste. it is bizarre. we got money that we should at least figure out what we really need. >> i couldn't agree more. i really believe, deeply, that every cabinet member needs to be a manager. there's so much good that could be done with strong leaders in these cabinet departments and subcabinet departments and subcabinet departments to save, be more productive for the american people before asking, send more money. that's what we hear washington. we are in this big debt