why would about middle class voter look at that and say these guys, the g.o.p. are all about protecting the rich? >> we are not the party of big, big banks, big bail-out. we are for a lower, flatter, simpler tax code. there are ideas to limit reduction for wealthy and limit carve-out. we need to make it clear we are not if party to protect the rich. they protect themselves. we want pro-growth policies. let the democratic party be growing, government growing revenues. grow the private sector economy. it can still be progressive. get rid of the calf-out and special treatment. when it comes to a fiscal cliff.