negative examples that would result from this type of thing. >> jonathan -- >> that's like saying your motto needs to be fish baby fish, when we've whale oil being used to power electricity. we've got to advance somewhere. i agree with the carbon tax. >> you think carbon -- >> okay carbon isn't poison. >> i didn't say it was. >> this is the washington mentality. let's see what we can get in under the gun. >> christian, five seconds. >> yeah. i think we all agree that the timing is wrong, but jonathan, you are absolutely dead wrong, especially your being a market guy. you should recognize that the price of car done does not reflect its cost and the carbon tax is designed tho do that. but we shouldn't look at it as a big revenue raiser. we should look at it as a way to normalize the market and make it equitable. >> i want to stay on this environmental story because coming up, lights are still out