today, then who told him to say it was the video? someone had to lean on him and for what reason. >> brian: he says, according to katherine herrage, he does not know who briefed ambassador rice. >> eric: who briefed him? >> brian: he was able to get real time information from people on the scene, i imagine. he says he has no idea who provided information to rice or who was the author of the information that she read. he had no idea who was going to talk on the shows 'til the white house release on friday and saturday who was on the sunday talk shows. >> eric: a four star general who had access, who allegedly had access to video, via drone and/or security who went and briefed i believe senate and house intelligence committee saying it was a response to a video. it may have been under oath or not, did you -- >> gretchen: we've learned that whether or not he was under oath that there is a requirement obviously that you tell the truth. >> eric: correct.