but does that mean, for some, becoming more moderate? rick santorum is here, you have a new book out. but let's talk about the guild o.p. >> yeah. >> greta: what arure going to do? >> look, this was a very close election. it was an election that, in my opinion, should have been about really big things. but we had a president who wanted to make it about really little things because i don't think he could win on the big thing it's. >> greta: big wins. most people thought the economy was the big thing. >> it was. but that was just -- a slice of it. i mean, what mitt romney did, he ran the campaign he wanted to run, to make it a referendum on the economy. and that's a big thing. but it is not-- the basic foundations of our country. i think what barack obama is trying to do -- and he said it himself, trying to transform america. it is about two different visions of america. that's the debate we should have had. is this a country that is a country that is best in the model of government running