the party bases, getting them out to vote and i tell you what's helping, uma, it's what you just said. often at the end of a campaign i find that one side is counting forcing the spin. they think they're going to lose. you eventually catch on to that, and not this time. both of the campaigns and the key people associated with it really do believe they have a path to victory, it's not spin. maybe they're living in parallel universes, one of them is right and one is wrong, but it's helping to enthuse the base. >> remember the last election, even though publicly the mccain supporters were trying to put on a brave front. it was clear in some circles that he was going to have a tough time, and it wasn't very-- they weren't confident he would pull a win off by this point. >> that's exactly right. and contrast 2008 when most people had figured out by ewilkes day who was going to