i'm always appropriate. >> you are always glib. number one, is hofstra like most colleges, a liberal place that kind of leans towards the president? >> i think it's a politically engaged campus because they have this debate almost every four years. i would say it's about 60/40 obama in over romney right now there is a lot of romney supporters hitting the streets and a lot of undecided voters. these people are actually going to make their decision based on the president's performance in the debate tonight. which is shocking to me how anyone could be undecided at this point. >> bill: okay. now, behind you is this spin room. this is the no spin zone. those are the people that are proud that they spin, right? >> right. they spin for a living. there is actually an anheuser busch hospitality tent right next door so a lot of these sur imats and -- surrogates and supports are getting lubed under and come over and spin. i ran into howard dean just