overwhelmingly all of the polls have shown that biden basically whipped his butt. >> eric: you know what the "wall street journal" is calling it, the bully versus the wonk. i don't know if that's complimentary on either side. >> the polls are showing something completely different. cbs, cnn, all the polls are showing that, in fact, they believe that ryan won. so i don't know where jehmu is getting her polls from. maybe from the democratic national committee. i want to show something that's on facebook. >> eric: this is becoming a fundraising tool for both sides. look at this. this is a take off on kanye west in 2009 when he interrupted taylor swift. this is from the national republican congressional committee. as you can see, it says, you know, let me interrupt you, let me finish. no, i'm not, so the republicans are using that to try to raise money against joe biden. but the democrats are supporting him. look at this. they're saying, way to go, joe. and they're now -- that's a bunch of malarky. jehmu, which side will win?