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watch. >> now here is why i'm saying this. >> i hope i'm going to get time to respond. >> you'll get time. >> we can do better than this. >> hope i'll get equal time. >> you will get just a few minutes here. i'm really going to keep to you 15 seconds. >> he gets 40, i get 15. >> he didn't have 40. >> i think people will be better served if we don't keep interrupting. >> well, don't take all the four minutes then. >> gretchen: no doubt. according to our brain room, the total speaking time joe biden, 41 minute, 32 seconds. congressman paul ryan, 40 minutes, 12 seconds. almost even. but let me know. if you watched the whole thing, you don't get that impression because i don't know how you can calculate time with all those interruption. you give paul ryan, what, five seconds because then he was interrupted for five seconds. then he'd talk for five more second, then interrupted for five more seconds. i don't know how you calculate the time. it seems like it was lop sided when you were watching it. >> brian: the president said i thought bind was terrific. i couldn't be prouder and mitt romney was proud of his guy,

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