the ball. i have been in afterafand iraq 20 times. i have been throughout that whole country, mostly in a helicopter and sometimes in a vehicle. the fact is, we went there for one reason, to get those people who killed americans, al qaeda. we have decimated al qaeda central. we have eliminated osama bin laden. that was our purpose. and in fact, in the meantime, what we said we would do, we would help train the afghan military. it's their responsibility to take over their own security. that's why, with 49 of our allies in afghanistan, we have agreed on a gradual draw-down so we are out of there by the year 2014 -- in the year 2014. my friend and the governor say it's based on conditions, which means, it depends. it does not depend, for us.