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that mohammed film clip had been a real movie, the president and all his spokespersons would have made it a blockbuster. they publicized it. the president's attention to it. publicized it throughout the muslim world and you have triggered those riots. i trace it back to them. let me go back for just a moment, bill. i'm trying to be fair as well. under condoleeza rice, the state department overdid security to the point they hired thugs, black water types, et cetera, and killed innocent iraqis. i think hillary clinton wanted to do just the opposite. she turned security over to the leftists and there are plenty with the state department. and as a result, you got the other extreme -- >> bill: maybe that's the case. but in the wild west of libya, particularly benghazi, you don't take two -- if do you take two security teams out, you got to explain it. >> and i think i'm explaining it, you can never excuse it.

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