are this he going to paint romney and ryan as extremists or paint them as flip floppers because they are not the same thing and if he is going to go after ryan and say you are an extremist and then go after ryan and say you don't know what you think. those things are the mutually exclusive. >> chris: the bottom line is does this really matter. as entertaining as it may be, do people vote based on what the vice presidential candidates say. we all afree that the most one sided debate maybe ever was lloyd benson against dan quayle. brit hume you were on the panel that night and that was the one and we are seeing the moment right here where benson says to dan quayle you are no jack kennedy and you can hear the roar from the crowd. does all this matter? >> we the debate was over i asked the question of quayle if