as an emergency physician, what's the first thing that's coming to mind about the spinal epidurals that people are receiving? >> epidurals that women get when they're pregnant, it's a totally different thing, but this is an injection into the epidural space and the problem it's a steroid which reduces inflammation and lowers your immune response in that area and evidently, these intersections, these steroids were contaminated with a common fungus caused aspegillis. >> i understand it goes into the membrane of the brain and cause the meningitis to have an outbreak there. >> right u'injected it into the epidural space, the space that circulates near the membrane of the spinal cord and the brain and you're injecting a fungus into that area with the stir rieroid and