out in america that much happier this guy being elitist. >> bill: what do you say -- >> are you kidding me? i will take a hamburger. >> bill: we got rasmussen and sabato. >> that's fine. >> bill: what do you say monday when the first polls come out that will reflect this debate how much of a bump does governor romney get? 5 pointle? 4 -- points, 4 points? >> i think romney will get 6 to 7 points. >> bill: that's big, beckel. >> that's. until the second debate. the second debate when the expectation is on romney to start to deliver something besides what he gave you last night and he did a good job. he is going to have to explain. if you want to beat an incumbent president you have got to do it with somebody. this guy is giving you nobody with substance who can do it. as simple as that i want to get you that fillet minion, bill but it ain't going to happen. >> bill: no you don't: