a lot of republicans are down cast. >> bill: i think it's because romney hasn't been forceful enough. last year -- last elections 61% 45%. romney is running better than mccain ran in the polls. and i do believe it's because of disenchantment with president obama i know a will the of people myself antidotal doesn't do much good here. who they are not sure about romney, that's why i'm saying that the first debate means everything if he can inspire people who are not devoted. 42% devoted to president obama are not going to vote for romney. there is swing area there where if the president comes off weak or flustered. if romney can fluster him. romney is going to pick those