the attorney general. but look at the consequences of this inaction. he's the chief law enforcement officer of the united states. he's the attorney general of the united states and he's saying hear no evil, see no evil, i'm not responsible and that's not the way the department of justice that it worked with is supposed to work. martha: what if he were to take more shot in the this situation. to say i didn't know but i should have known. and this did happen on my watch. and that was a grievous error. >> a grievous error. when you are the chief law enforcement officer of the united states and the chief lawyer for the united states. the responsibility is as he had with some of his deputies to step aside. there is no good explanation for the attorney general. this idea he did not know. it was going on in my department and i didn't know about it. this ended up being a massive operation. the attorney general's defense is i don't know? sorry, that not way it's