wrong. i think you are reading that gallup poll wrong. i don't have that gallup poll here. >> 40% of catholics belief that abortion is morally acceptable, bill. the reality is the laws that dictate of the pope and vatican change. used to say you couldn't eat meat on friday they changed that rule. >> bill: here is the abortion poll right here. abortion practicing catholics morally acceptable 25%. morally wrong 75%. that's the poll, juan. all right? so let's get it straight. now, do you think sandra fluke is an extremist, mary katharine? >> i think most of what she pitches is a little extreme. she was up on the stage talking about how everyone should pay for everyone else's birth control. which. >> bill: so you think. >> the agencies from her. >> bill: wait, wait. you guys -- you have got to answer my questions. you think she is an extremist, correct, mary katharine. >> i think she is outside. yes. >> bill: do you think the president of planned parenthood is extremist as