and i think problem for obama is that a lot of people feel the same way. i'm not as harsh on this as charles was. i think probably effective and pandered to but we've heard this before. so fresh and new in 2008. and this felt like several state of the unions we've heard before. there is a lot of sort of these throw away lines, chris wallace compared 2008 speech to you no, same promises he didn't fulfill in 2008. 2008. 194 barry goldwater gave a right wing speech at 1964 republican convention. a journalist responded by mi god, he's going to run as goldwater, i feel like my god, he's going run as barack obama. this felt so familiar, so uninspiring and unless you're already, still capable of being inspire bid this guy, i don't think it did what he needed to it do. >> they did in this convention