sometimes you really have to go through a lot of difficulty to get through the p.r. folks. by the way, the governor is a perfect yes and he is doing a fine job in massachusetts and he is a great guy himself, but, you know, i know what you saw this was a bonding moment and you said obviously the governor thinks a left you, but, man, larry sabato, getting beyond the palace guard. >> that was impressive, this were several complete sentences. >>neil: this is framed this way, i find sit down interviews routine and whichst more natural, someone talking to me from the side of their face. >> he is almost like a statue. >>neil: and i looked like lurch. we joke about this, you let those who do not want to talk to now a variety of reasons but they have a message they want to get out and they do not want it