normal american voters. they will not read the platform but may hear about it on the news. one of the things democrats need to worry about on the abortion question, when there are no restrictions mentioned, when there is taxpayer funding of abortions included, that is a 70% issue for american people. they are more than 70% against taxpayer funding of abortions. when you take that extreme position and sort of make it part of the theme of your convention, that makes it more obvious to people that that is out of step with them. i think that is maybe the misstep the democrats have made. on gay marriage, i point out they didn't believe that until like two months ago. it is a recent shift. that is more in line with public shift of opinion. so they're safer on that ground though maybe not as much in swing states than other states. jon: a moment ago juan mentioned. go ahead, juan. >> i was going to respond to mary katherine, jon and say i think on the abortion issue, which is a hot button issue for both sides, i think when you read the republican platform says, even in cases of rape and incest, we're opposed to